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LOST Discussion for Episode 3.06: I Do

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Here's your well-reasoned, non-fanatical discussion for Episode 3.06: I Do

This week's contributors: Ally, Starr, and Laila


Hippocratic What?

So Jack is holding Ben's life hostage until Kate is well on her way to freedom. Three big questions emerge from Jack's dicey move.

First, why the hell didn't Kate explain that they were on a separate island and could therefore not escape? I'm sure that would have had a decent impact on Jack's calculus before he started running the table in the operating room. I kind of think it's one of those things meant to annoy you, the viewer, because you know and they won't say it on the show. It's not unlike a soap opera. It's annoying but it keeps viewers watching.

Next, I'm still kind of confused as to why Jack decided to do the operation after he saw Kate and Sawyer getting it on (see below). Jack had been on the outs with Kate before they were captured, and I just don't see why he'd put it all on the line for her. It made much more sense for him to act in his own interests and get off the Island. Maybe him seeing it was premeditated by the Others as part of a con job and Jack is going over the top on them.

And the obvious question: what will happen? Some people think Jack's up a creek without a paddle because they are on Hydra Island. It's not inconceivable that they give Kate a boat to get back if Jack demands it. He seems to have some pretty potent despotic power right now. Starr doesn't think that they care enough about Ben to let Kate go. However, it seems that Tom's reaction (the Other who had the radio) was concerned enough that Ben is important enough to them. It's also not unfathomable that Jack demand some serious weapons be brought his way to blast his way home after the surgery. There's one problem, though. What about Sawyer? What is the plan for him? Does Jack care? Is him staying part of Jack's calculus, or is it assumed that Sawyer goes with Kate?


Kate and Sawyer Make a Sexytime

Niiice.

It's sweeps, so it's not a surprise that Kate and Sawyer got it on now. Should we call this affair Katyer? Kawyer? Those are both pretty terrible.

Anyhow, a couple of things about this. Did it strike anybody else as odd that the alarm didn't go off when Kate broke into Sawyer's cage? It definitely went off when Karl escaped, if that was in fact a real escape by him (see below). That being said, did the Others allow or want it to happen? It could have been for any number of reasons. Did they want Kate to get pregnant so they get another baby? Was it part of a con job to get Jack to operate?

The whole thing brings up some interesting theories. So far, every girl that has had sex on the island (that we know of) has died. That includes Anna Lucia and Shannon. I don't personally buy the "sex, therefore death" theory, but some people do. One of the more ridiculous sex theories ones I heard said that Sawyer keeps cockblocking Jack (as with Anna Lucia and Kate). Watch out, Juliet.


"LIFT UP YOUR EYES AND LOOK NORTH"

Locke got what he thinks is a divine message from Eko's Jesus beating stick. It says, more or less, to go north. I think that everybody is assuming that Hydra Island is north and that is where Jack, Kate, and Sawyer are. I don't think this is the case.

If you look at the picture below, you can see Sawyer looking at the Island from Hydra Island. Notice Sawyer's shadow. The sun is setting behind him, casting his shadow in front of him, meaning that Hydra Island would have to be due west of the Island. I imagine some will think I'm being too analytic about that, but I have yet to see the writers let a detail like that slip. I think that whatever is north has nothing to do with Hydra Island. Maybe it will be another hatch or the Others' village.


Benjamin the Baby Daddy?

Alex is back again and leaves us with all kinds of hints. She is apparently some kind of nuisance to the Others. They clearly can't kill her and be done with her, so she has to have some sort of stature with the Others. She asks about Benjamin, but is forcibly removed shortly thereafter. But, right before Ben went under the knife, he asked Juliet if Alex asked about him. Juliet told him she didn't.

This makes me kind of think that Ben is somehow connected to Alex. We don't know for sure that Alex was conceived by Rousseau's husband (who she shot). It was just assumed. It could be that Ben and Rousseau are Alex's parents, or that Ben raised her when the Others kidnapped her. She has to have some kind of in with someone high up in the Others' camp, or else she'd get killed. Her stunts are probably tolerated only because Ben doesn't want her killed. This also makes it seem even more likely that there are factions in the Others' and Alex is on a side opposing Ben's group.


Jacob's List

This was a very subtle, but important hint dropped. It's mentioned that Jack was not on "Jacob's list". We know that there was a list of people to be kidnapped by the Others, and this Jacob characters is apparently the author of that list. But who is Jacob?

I did some searching on Wikipedia and found that Jacob from the Jewish Bible has a 12th and last son named Benjamin. Could it be that there is someone above even Benjamin in the Others' hierarchy? Seems like it.


Other Updates

Remember Karl, who was in Kate's cage before she got there? Alex came back this week wanting answers about him, but implied that she thinks he is dead.

Last week we talked about the eye patch guy. It donned on me that the glass eye that was in the storage facility where the survivors of the plane's tail section stayed is his. Why is it there? Is this one eyed guy Jacob?

Last week we also wondered why Ben had a tumor while others were miraculously healed. Apparently it really is a tumor. So... why are the survivors getting healed by the island's power while the Others aren't?


Lastly, Laila says: Nikki and Paolo really need to be eaten by the polar bear.

Word. I think that would qualify as dying in "spectacular fashion", as Matt O suggested last week.

Post your thoughts.

Comments

a couple things. First, I feel the need to defend my cockblocking comment. Sawyer (God I love him) is like that douchebag friend of yours. You can tell him you like this girl and he will convince you from here to eternity that she is a no good slut - and then, he'll bang her. That is just what he does. He is a slore - and there are only so many girls on the island so watch it Julliete (and you too Hurley). Sawyer is on his way to solving the infertility problem on the islands.

My Nikki and Paolo comment was in jest but - the Tom Stoppard play "Rosenkrantz and Guilderstern (I can't spell - sue me) are dead" comes to mind. Go forth and Wikipedia.

Also - I am convinced now that Kate is an 'Other'. While I realize her man arms looked quite nice in that wedding dress and I found myself questioning through the scene (oooh nice firefly reference, oooh good job J.J., nice alias reference, oooh is that Jack's dad sitting in the pew)I can't shake the feeling. When she is around trouble happens and no man is safe. No man and no elliptical machine.

Randoms
Though Starr hates this book, A Tale of Two Cities is a great reference in this episode especially when you think about the Bad Twin manuscript.

When Ben told Jack see you on the other side before surgery, that is the same thing Desmond told Jack when they met

Jacob's List = Jacob's Ladder

So many necklaces, so many drugged/dead lovers grasping them...

and my final reiteration - I really want a slinghot now

Kate is not an Other. That is completely absurd.

A few things: first of all, being on the outs with someone is very different from wanting that person to remain a prisoner. Jack is too good of a person to just leave anyone (even Sawyer) out to dry. Besides, Kate has already been with a Jack-like-do-gooder type and we saw how that was never going to work (this week's flashback with Kevin the cop). Water seeks its own level; she has to be with the other con artist, not the good guy.

It's not true that every chick who gives it up on the island gets the axe. Sun is doing it (hopefully with Michael, most likely just Jin) and she's still around and even with child.

You talk about the writers not being sloppy (when referencing Sawyer's shadow and the placement of Hydra Island) and any other season I would've agreed with you. However, the oh-so-crappy introduction of the two lame ass characters that go into the jungle with Locke and Sayid make me think that it's entirely possible for something as miniscule as a shadow to have escaped the writers' attention.

Lastly, we don't call it the "Jewish Bible." It's the Torah, the Old Testament or just the Bible, as Benjamin and Jacob are biblical characters even if you aren't giving ups to Big J.

When I saw "Jewish Bible" on Wikipedia I totally thought it meant Torah and even tried to reconcile the terms, but Wikipedia apparently wronged me.

Ryan -- Nice page --

Hey -- as to Eko's Prayer stick -- did you notice that more stuff had been carved into it AFTER it fell into Locke's hands? Eko couldn't have done it! Compare shots from episode 1 the one you have above.

And the appearance of Eko's brother when he indicates the spirit isn't really his brother -- OT scripture has many references to the "Familiar Spirit" being satan. Familiar Spirits are, according to the OT, are what mediums and the like bring to us -- satan trying to fool us. Fooled Eko -- right?

I agree 100% that the North comment means something other than the small island. ... And there are volumes to read on that stick. North Pole, maybe?

Do you have a complete list of all that is carved into the prayer stick? I already have the same shot you posted above, but have they ever shown the other side of the stick up close?

Is there a referenc e to 1 John 1:9 anywhere to be found?

Aslo -- anything interesting about the US Marshal declaring to Kate (Monika) that it figured she would make contact with him on The Feast of the Ascention?

If nothing else -- it puts a time stamp on when she left her husband and went to AU. Late May-ish -- depending on when Easter falls in a given year. (40 days after Easter)

Take care --

JB

JB --

Here is a link that lets you see both sides of the Jesus beating stick. I think that we just hadn't seen the opposite side until after Eko's death:

http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/Eko%27s_stick

There is a great amount of detail to the scripture given, but it all seems mostly to do with salvation.

Ryan -- Thanks for the link to the photos of the prayer stick. ...

Not to beat a dead polar bear, but I want to clerify what I said about additions to the stick.

Ep 1, this season -- the stick falls from the tree. We got a momentary look at the "Lift up you eyes and look North." (Only visible by stopping it via DVR.)

We got a nice long look at it in the finale -- but this time there were additions to the stick. Eko couldn't have added to it -- he was unconcious and the stick was out in the jungle.

Check it out!

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